@Jirikiha @vkc Men know what men are like.

@Jirikiha @alice @vkc See also: being white on the internet

@haltroy
And just like any disease we'll keep fighting it.
@Orb2069 @vkc

@vkc Those of us who wouldn't see it much because it isn't directed at us and may never pass through our feed. I guess the best thing is to screenshot the harassment and post it for all to see so we can harass the harasser.

@vkc @eq

hey men, don't let the idiots get me

@Aprazeth
This is a huge opportunity. We need to learn *and teach eachother* how to call our brothers in when they're out of line.

We need to know what to do and make it a reflex!
@alice @vkc

@mloxton Matthew, I agree with you, we need to deal with it. But to be quite frank, I rarely see it. Not that I'm not looking, rather it's ususally beyond what is in my feed, and therefore I can't respond. I suggest we broadcast, or perhaps create a list that can be used and these women can PM that list with what's happening. I'd be happy to help, but I don't see it, thus I can't help. @bob @vkc

@vkc @Nickiquote fuck that guys! I consider necessary to expose them but even more important is ton promote a culture where that behaviour is never accepted.

@semitones @alice @vkc
made me take notice too!

@RegGuy

I hear you, and the same situation exists wrt racism. People of color say they get a ton of racist interactions, but I don't see it, so don't respond.

I think three things are going on:
1. There are things that *I* don't perceive as racist/sexist, but are experienced as such by the target. That bc the perpetrator is modulating to escape detection
2. There are things that I haven't realized are racist and sexist, and I need to educate myself
3. I am not in those environments
@bob @vkc

@vkc Very sorry this happened! ️

Unfort it does matter on what instance one is since the blocklists are tied to instances and not federated

There is a very dark corner in the Fedi and those domains should be blocked on instance level by default

We started out with a long list, after 6 years its only gotten longer and longer but its needed, very much

@vkc Well, that's disappointing. Sorry you had to do that. I do what I can when I see it, but of course I'm only one person.

@vkc oh JFC. I am sorry.

@byrnensorg there's good reason for a lot of anger at some things. The problems have always been here too, but due to active moderation and the nature of federation, it can be less visible (except to the people who get sucker-punched).

Also, the only way we keep Fedi from becoming Twitter is by believing the victims instead of the trolls.

@vkc

@mloxton There is an excellent book, "How to Be an Antiracist," by Ibram X. Kendi. Sexism has become a more difficult thing, as in some cases, it's in the eye of the recipient. I take anything like a slight only because they are the opposite sex to be sexism; that goes both ways. I think there is a lot of overt sexism that's easy to spot. If someone is harassing another, that's not necessarily sexism, but certainly harassment, and occurs more toward women than men, to be sure. @bob @vkc

@vkc Very sorry to hear you are experiencing this. It's not ok.

@vkc +1000000

@alice @vkc There was some threads this week that could've benefitted from an angry dome.

@vkc Hugs if you want them, a nod if you don't. Sorry you had to endure that bullshit again.

@vkc I will never understand why some people just love to be shitheads.