@alice @vkc I think you are too generous in assuming the *lot* can learn anything at this stage, it's like teaching a hammer 'there are other things than nails you know'.

@semitones thanks for bringing that up 🩷 seems like a good time to boost that post again.

@vkc

@alice @vkc

Absolutely. We, as men, *must* step up. Not only with standing against sexual harassment; but also the "edgy" comments

Its easy to spout as a man you'd stand against brutality. But yet we're often quiet when women, POC, are ignored, belittled, etc.

Creating a world where we all are safe from harm is stopping **all** forms of harassment, staring, belittling, catcalling. At. All. Times.

Men, we need to do better and hold each other accountable. For everyone, including ourselves

@byrnensorg I gotta believe we can do better than this, because the alternative is pretty fucking sad.

@vkc

@vkc @eq that had to be said ️

@mloxton @vkc

When/if i see it on Beamship, i become a pitbull...

@alice @vkc

And that also means at places and times where it is just men around.

Especially then.

Silence then is implied endorsement later.

@alice @vkc I have noticed today in multiple threads that there's a lot of anger out there and dare I say it, twittification, it's as if mastodon is morphing before our very eyes.

@vkc sorry you have to deal with that shit. Dudes need to be better. You shouldn't have to put up with the extra BS just because you're a woman on the internet.

If I see I will do my best to call it out. Too much happens in places I can't see which I think is one of the few flaws Masto has. Not sure how to fix that tho. But if I can help I will.

@Jirikiha @vkc Men know what men are like.

@Jirikiha @alice @vkc See also: being white on the internet

@haltroy
And just like any disease we'll keep fighting it.
@Orb2069 @vkc

@vkc Those of us who wouldn't see it much because it isn't directed at us and may never pass through our feed. I guess the best thing is to screenshot the harassment and post it for all to see so we can harass the harasser.

@vkc @eq

hey men, don't let the idiots get me

@Aprazeth
This is a huge opportunity. We need to learn *and teach eachother* how to call our brothers in when they're out of line.

We need to know what to do and make it a reflex!
@alice @vkc

@mloxton Matthew, I agree with you, we need to deal with it. But to be quite frank, I rarely see it. Not that I'm not looking, rather it's ususally beyond what is in my feed, and therefore I can't respond. I suggest we broadcast, or perhaps create a list that can be used and these women can PM that list with what's happening. I'd be happy to help, but I don't see it, thus I can't help. @bob @vkc

@vkc @Nickiquote fuck that guys! I consider necessary to expose them but even more important is ton promote a culture where that behaviour is never accepted.

@semitones @alice @vkc
made me take notice too!

@RegGuy

I hear you, and the same situation exists wrt racism. People of color say they get a ton of racist interactions, but I don't see it, so don't respond.

I think three things are going on:
1. There are things that *I* don't perceive as racist/sexist, but are experienced as such by the target. That bc the perpetrator is modulating to escape detection
2. There are things that I haven't realized are racist and sexist, and I need to educate myself
3. I am not in those environments
@bob @vkc

@vkc Very sorry this happened! ️

Unfort it does matter on what instance one is since the blocklists are tied to instances and not federated

There is a very dark corner in the Fedi and those domains should be blocked on instance level by default

We started out with a long list, after 6 years its only gotten longer and longer but its needed, very much