@neil keepandroidopen has to create a standard email to send to.

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You're in the legal biz Neil (I think?): is this a question on which the Competition & Markets Authority have some jurisdiction? I guess, bcs Apple, it's not strictly creating a monopoly, but it's definitely restricting the market.

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Can Android be saved?
I say no--it's too late.

https://mastodon.social/@DaveMasonDotMe/116077995885754163

@neil Any idea whether this would impact GrapheneOS users?

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I'm with you on this. The list of disabled ('cos I can't uninstall) Google apps on my phone is impressively long and includes play services and play store. I rely on F-Droid and, heaven help me APKpure - which has both the additional apps I can't get from F-Droid but also the worlds biggest collection of UX anti patterns for flinging ads in every conceivable way and at all times. Hate it but still prefer it to Google.

I hate this new proposal from Google but don't know what to do. Polite suggestions welcome

@bamboombibbitybop
https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/32033-android-app-lockdown
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@neil @jrdepriest for both Google and Apple, I’d really like their built in stores to be all about trust and uphold a guarantee that apps have been checked and conform to a level of safety privacy accessibility and reliability to reach the App Store. Give a choice of where to download from, but also make the App Store presence mean something

@TrimTab @neil I would say the OS community can offer tools, but it is up to the app store operators to decide what they can host, and we certainly should not be putting the final say for other app stores in the hands of a company that does not successfully manage their own.

@neil There is nothing to "keep" open. Android was never open. They astroturfed an entire "open alliance" to... force all participants to push their apps and prohibit any and all forks. Since like 2008!

Android was never open, and at least they're finally honest about it.

@neil Honestly why we should be focusing on real linux distros for mobile devices. Android is frankly already fruit from the poisonous tree.

@neil GrapheneOS!

@ancientsounds F-Droid has been talking to various competition regulators, yes.

@bamboombibbitybop It will not.

@DaveMasonDotMe Quite possibly!

@neil @linuzifer wäre das nicht auch was für @lnp ? liebe den podcasf btw