@daria Reasonable folks could have different opinions on this, but I consider self-hosting to be "I administer the server and manage the software", and I'm willing to include "someone else manages the hardware" as part of that.

So, IMO a VPS counts. But I'd consider whether that's necessary or if you can get away with running your stuff on an old PC should the need arise.

@vkc any good guides to recommend to newbies?

@Meznor dozens of them, but it depends on what you want to self host.

For a lot of things, Nextcloud is a reasonable place to start, and their docs are pretty good. The community snap for Ubuntu, in particular, is very easy if you're new and just trying to get your feet wet.

https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/latest/admin_manual/installation/source_installation.html

@vkc On Tor

@Meznor @vkc

Maybe you can start with @yunohost

https://yunohost.org/

@vkc i did it for years. Server is still downstairs but I am not yet prepared to light it up again, but I did love IBM Domino.

@vkc if you dont know or dont want to bother with manually setting up nextcloud, or other things, it seems like https://yunohost.org helps with easily setting up a server and installing various services in it. just in case someone finds it interesting.

@redliria@neopaquita.es @vkc@linuxmom.net there is also https://cosmos-cloud.io/

@vkc My Synology NAS is starting to buckle under the weight of all these containers

@vkc I'm trying to self-host almost every service that allows self-hosting. It's not really hard, it just takes time to learn how to set up and maintain the servers (also, good hardware helps a lot with performance). I usually self-host with @nextcloud.

I'm thinking about hosting my own Mastodon instance now, but I need to upgrade my RAM because I already have a lot of servers running on my machine.

@vkc For the (probably sizable) portion of users who will never, ever self-host, for a variety of reasons, what are the best ways to organize around and support self-hosted content with others?

@yoshemitzu computer clubs can be amazing. There's almost certainly someone nearby who is not only self hosting, but wants to help others do the same (or share resources about it). Finding or starting a computer club/Linux club/etc is probably the best way to go.

@vkc
I used to run a Nextcloud on a VPS but couldn't come up with any good use for it, so I ended up scrapping it.

My Synology NAS at home, accessible over Wireguard, fulfills my needs perfectly as I have no need for publicly accessible services.
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@vkc if PCs computing power are ment to be rented (you would not have an actual PC at home) i assume that yeu are talking about selfhosting and owning the hardware too. Interesting times ahead.

Edit: To add this https://hachyderm.io/@pheonix/115899759634576914

@a @vkc @redliria
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing! I will try it at some point

@vkc I've got my own gitlab server running on my old PC. I want to put more services on it like a drive and mail. However that PC is running on an 8 core CPU(one of which is broken and doesn't work). I need to upgrade it.

@yunohost awww thank you for the great compliment ​ ️​ - delighted to hear you are recommending my guides.

And hello @Meznor ! I've been writing a blog series about how to self-host from the POV of a total newbie (that was me a year ago).

Part 1 is tech requirements: https://blog.elenarossini.com/a-newbies-guide-to-self-hosting-with-yunohost-part-1-reasons-requirements/

Part 2 is a step-by-step installation guide for the YunoHost system: https://blog.elenarossini.com/a-newbies-guide-to-self-hosting-with-yunohost-part-2-installation-setup/

and part 3 - coming tomorrow! - will show how to install an app. I'll be showcasing #NextCloud.

Feel free to reach out if you have any questions

@beaufils @vkc

@vkc been meaning to get further into:
https://coolify.io/

@Meznor @vkc
I consider myself a newb, went with unraid followed it has great channels on YouTube on how to implement many services. If you want to access your services remotely I would recommend to start with tailscale so you don't have to deal with port forwarding and security.

@vkc I thought about that, but I'd still consider hiding my public IP somehow when running my server from a PC in my home - maybe it's irrational fear of exposing the network though.